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rangement of the Noble Marquis who, admitting the fact (of which practically just, he ought to have he, Mr. C. knew nothing), that taken all the other outgoings into those tenants were still, and view; he ought to have made an always had remained, at the rents allowance for the additional out-of 1790, could not now pay the goings occasioned by the addition rents of 1790, except out of their to the taxes and rates, which were capitals which must, in time, be now very nearly as high in no-exhausted; that is to say, the minal amount as they were during ruin of these tenants must finally the war, and, which were, in fact, come.---We, had, however, now nearly three times as great in heard broached the monstrous amount as at that time. The doctrine that taxes did not cause taxes going out silently in the any part of the distress; that form of wages, poor-rates, bills to

taxes never could be oppressive to

agricultural tradesmen, and for the farmer; and this doctrine was

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articles consumed in the farm-pressed upon us with an eagerhouse, were twice in amount that ness characteristic of perfect desof rent; and, therefore, these peration. It signified nothing that should have been taken into ac-all mankind had always been of a count by Lord Stafford, and, if different opinion; it signified nothey had been, he would have thing that the Agricultural Comfound, that the farmer, though the mittee had said that taxes did pro rent were settled according to the duce distress; it signified nothing price of corn, could have little, or that common sense cried aloud nothing, left to pay any rent at all against the preposterous asserwith.-Now, all these observations tion; Mr. RICARDO, Lord CASapplied to the case of the tenants TLEREAGH, Mr. VANSITTART, and of the Noble Duke and the Noble Mr. HUSKISSON did now boldly assert, that taxes were not the cause of the distress, and that the

Lord (the Duke of Richmond and

Lord Selsea) before mentioned,

repeal of them would add to the pay rent? And, need there be distress, rather than produce re- one more word said to confute the lief! There needed to men of doctrine now pressed on the counsound understanding, such as those try by Mr. RICARDO and the Mito whom he was then addressing nisters ?-It being so evident, that himself, no argument in answer the taxes were the great cause of to an assertion so monstrous; but, the inability to pay rent; it being he would mention a single fact, so evident, that, when the capitals which he would throw down as a of the present farmers were exchallenge to this tribe of wise hausted, there could be no rent at economists. On the day of the all; it being evident, that, having Meeting at Epsom, Mr. KNOWLES absorbed the capital of the farmer and the rent of the landlord, the

of Thursley, put into his (Mr. Cobbett's) hands, a memorandum, government must next go to the stating that a farmer had, a few tithes; all this being so evident, days before, taken fourteen quar-it would naturally be asked, ters of barley to a maltster at how it come to pass, that the GODALMING, and, in exchange, Landlords, the greatest of whom had carried home, four quarters of really filled the seats in the two malt and eight shillings! Now, houses of parliament, were so had there been no tax on the malt; blind to their own interest as not he would have taken home, in ex-to reduce the taxes! To account change for his barley, the same for this seeming insensibility, he four quarters of malt, and eight (Mr. Cobbett) must state what it pounds instead of eight shillings.really gave him no pleasure to Need it be asked, whether the state.

eight pounds, or, at least, the seven pounds twelve shillings, would not have gone further than the eight shillings in enabling the farmer to

These landlords had, but too many of them, other interests to attend to besides their estates. They were in fact, deeply interested in keeping up the taxes.

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He disliked being, on an occasion (long received, large sums of money like this, personal in his observa- out of these same burdensome taxes. To enumerate all the instances of this sort would keep him on his legs for a week. This being the case, the feelings of the

tions; but, at the same time, unless he spoke out his mind freely, he should be wholly unworthy of the honour that the Meeting had done

him. Of the Noble Duke of Rich-landlords were divided: they namond he had never heard any harm, and had, during the few hours he had been in his neighbourhood, heard a great deal of good; but, he (Mr. C.) could not but know, that the Noble Duke was

a large receiver of taxes. Of another noble peer (the Earl of Egremount,) of his generosity, his

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turally wished for rents; but, they liked the taxes too: and, they were, therefore, disposed to listen to and to believe those, who told them, that "time and patience," on the part of the farmers, would give them both.-There was another gentleman closely connected with that part of the country, with regard to whom he (Mr. C.) did not think it necessary to be so

goodness towards his tenants, his humane disposition, of his great consideration for the labouring very ceremonious; he meant Mr. classes, he (Mr. C.) had heard a HUSKISSON! That gentleman had,

great deal; he firmly believed all

perhaps, no very great landed estate of his own, though he had a pretty large one belonging to the public under his management, the

that he had heard, and he himself -could, if it were necessary, state from his own experience a strong proof of the candour, liberality rents of which were indeed a and frankness of that nobleman; wonderful thing, if there were yet, he (Mr. C.) must observe, time to notice them. But Mr. that it was perfectly notorious, HUSKISSON was in the actual rethat some members of the Noble

Lord's family, received, and had

ceipt of from four to six thousand pounds a year out of the taxes;

he, besides had long had settled also to have high taxes! He on him a pension of 1,200 a year (Mr. C.) expressed, in 1815, his for life, whenever he should be concurrence in opinion with Mr. receiving less than 2,000l. a year HUSKISSON, who was burnt in from the public in some other effigy at HAVANT for the very sayway; and, in accordance with that ing now quoted. But he (Mr. C.) amiable feeling, conjugal tender- could not now agree with him ness, he had obtained a pension when contending with all his for his wife of from six hundred might for the precise contrary of to a thousand a year, to commence that which he contended for in 1815 from the day of his own death!-He next proceeded to show Could the Meeting be at any loss (somewhat in the same manto discover a reason why Mr. ner as at the Epsom-meeting), HUSKISSON was so blind as not to that there was every reason to be able to see that eight pounds believe, that the prices of farmwould have been better than eight produce must yet fall very consishillings to the Thursley farmer derably, in which opinion the and his landlord?-And here he Meeting appeared fully to concur (Mr. Cobbett) begged the Meet- with him. He here adverted to ing to mark the change in Mr the ministerial pamphlet, ascribed HUSKISSON'S way of thinking as to to Mr. COURTENAY, and containtaxation. That gentleman was ing the proposition, that prices an advocate for the Corn Bill in must rise because they do not now 1815; and, upon that occasion yield sufficient to pay the COST he said, that, "WHILE THE of raising the crops. The miniPRESENT TAXES REMAIN-sters mistook the matter here. ED, the people must be content Rent made no part of the cost of to eat DEAR BREAD." Now, raising the crop. The cost conhowever, he says, that it is good sisted of wages of various sorts, to have cheap bread, and good rates, taxes, tradesmen's bills,

and interest of the farmer's ing cattle; the keep of the farcapital. These were all paid mer and his family; the fair indaily and hourly. The rent and terest on the farmer's capital, the the farmer's profit consisted of tenth part of the crop given to the what might be left. They, the parson; and of the money paid to C.) assert, the Smith, the Wheel-wright and

Ministers, (said Mr.

that the present distress must be the Collar-maker. Of these the temporary. And this is the way cost, the necessary cost, consists.

These must be had, or the corn and meat cannot be raised. Therefore, the price of the corn and

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they go to work to prove the assertion to be true. They say, the price of no article of general necessity can, for any great length meat cannot, for any great length of time, be less than the cost of of time, be less than this aggrebringing it to a state to be used. gate cost; for, if it were to be This being undeniably true, they less, the raising of the corn and proceed upon the strength of it, meat must cease, a thing not, thus: Corn and meat are articles for a moment, to be supposed posof general necessity; therefore, sible under any circumstances. the price of corn and meat cannot for any great length of time, be less than the cost of raising them and bringing them to market. Thus far also they are right; but, and to the tithe; and it must, when they go on to apply those besides, be, on a general run, general propositions to the present equal to pay the interest of the case, they are wrong. The cost farmer's capital; for, if it yield of raising corn and meat consists him no interest; he will withdraw of the wages or keep of the la-it, or, in other words he will quit bourer, part in wages and part in farming.But, because all this poor-rates; the keep of the work- is clearly true, it does not follow,

The price, upon a general run, must be equal to the feeding of the labourer, the poor, the farmer, the smith and other tradesmen,

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