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very naturally dislike to hear the sufferings imputed to those taxes; and, besides this, they as well as the fundholder, the mortgagee, and the my-laced and unpensioned landlord, profit, as placemen and pensioners, by the rise in the value of money, and, therefore, they would fain prevent the farmers from busying themselves about matters relat, ing to the currency; and would have them stay at home, and use individual exertion. It is become the fashion, Gentlemen, to repeat very often the assertion, that the interests of landlord and tenant are the same. There is more of sentiment than of truth in this observation as applied to the present state of things. For, if there be a law passed, which compels, in effect, the tenant to pay the landlord twice or three times as much rent as he contracted to pay, can any thing, with regard to that law, be more opposed than is the interest of the landlord to that of the tenant? And, that this is the state of the case can be denied by no man. For the landlord to call on the tenant to make up for his enormous losses by saving and pinching is folly; but it is something else, too; for, at this time of day, when the wild notions about Corn Bills are very nearly exploded, the landlord must know, that every lease of three or four years standing, and having as many years to run, actually enriches the landlord by the loss of the tenant, and binds the latter to the ruin of himself and family. Gentlemen, it was observed to-day by a gentleman, whose name I am told is Woodward, that the contracting of the Debt was necessary to carry on a war for the preservation of property. There are many, amongst whom I am one, who think that the war was wholly unnecessary for any good purpose; but, to hear said, even now, that it tended to preserve property, is something that I could not have expected. The war and its appendages made that debt and

those other charges which cause the taxes, which, as all men now see, are the cause of the sufferings of all classes, and which, after having crushed the other classes, one by one, are now pressing with deadly weight upon that class which hold in their hands the very sources of all national wealth and prosperity. Let any man show me even a revolution, though revolutions are by no means to be coveted, and are particularly disliked by me, and have been, as far as I have had power, most anxiously and unremittingly sought to be prevented; let any man show me even a revolution that has made such havoc on property, so direct an attack on it, so unavoidable a transfer of it, as has been made and is now making by the war, its taxes, its debts, its establishments and its terrible finishing stroke the Bill of Mr. Peel. Where is the man of all those who now, with such indulgent patience, listen to me, whose property is now safe? Where is the farmer whose all is not either gone or in jeopardy? Is there now any security of any kind for any thing that any man possesses? Is there any thing which any one connected with the land can regard as a stable possession? Your thoughts must answer no. You must say, that, if the Bill of Mr. Peel (the effects of the war taken into view) had declared in its preamble its intention to ruin you, it could not have been more complete in its effects. And, how stands the landlord, who has no share of the taxes? Can he call the land his property? Can he hope that one single acre will finally, and in a short time, fail to be transferred from him? This transfer is much quicker work than people's aversion to see their danger will let them perceive; for it takes but a very short time to transfer the whole, at the rate at which that transfer is now going on. In imminent danger, therefore, is every landlord's estate. The farmer will soon be either ruined

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or safe; but, the land remains, and | cause prices to fall in those counon it the whole weight must fall tries, and ours must follow. To when the present renters are drain- show the inefficacy of Corn Bills, ed of their last shilling. The land- America, which has never imlord has, therefore, but a short ported a sack of corn since the space of quiet possession left him. country was discovered by ColumA piece of bacon at the mercy of bus, has since the passing of Mr. half a dozen hungry ploughmen is Peel's Bill, seen prices fall in the not in greater peril than the land-proportion of from one hundred and lord's estate at the mercy of the fifty to forty five; and I read in a fundholders. Here, Gentlemen, newspaper of only the other day, we come to the subject of a remedy, that one merchant's house in Phiwhich to describe in the detail Iladelphia had sent, in the course of shall not attempt; but, I am con- the year, gold to the amount of a fident, that there is no remedy million of dollars to England! Here without a reduction of the interest of are cause and effect. England the Debt. A Gentleman who dis- drains away gold, the American played so much ability to-day Banks, which are compelled to (Mr. Blackman) observed, that the pay in cash, draw in their paper, funds ought not to be touched, that and prices fall. Thus, Gentlemen, public faith ought not to be vio- I am convinced, the thing will go lated. He must have meant this on until May 1823; and, if Mr. with mitigation of construction; Peel's Bill remain in full force, for, public faith can never call on our taxes must come down to even the mass of the people to pay three less than sixteen millions a year, for one to the fundholder any more or all the landed estates must than to the placeman, pensioner, change owners. There are many or landlord. And, as to the prac- here present, who will remember ticability, the thing is absolutely what I now say; and, I desire it impossible, without a transfer of to be remembered, that I now do all landed estates, and then another say, that, if this Bill remain in full transfer, and so on, until property force to May 1823, and continue become a mere empty name. Be- thenceforth in full force, the price fore the war, the whole of the taxes of good wheat on an average of amounted to fifteen or sixteen mil-years, will not exceed, at the most, lions a year; they now amount to four shillings the Winchester fifty odd millions, between thirty bushel. I have, as to this great and forty of which go to the affairs matter, always been right hitherto of the Debt. Retrenchment if you during the space of nineteen years please; retrenchment by all means; of constant writing. Before the but, of what avail is retrenchment, Bill of Mr. Peel was passed, I unless you retrench the Debt? To warned the Parliament of the conthe sixteen millions and less we sequences; I said, that, if unmust return if Mr. Peel's Bill re- accompanied with other measures, main in force. Prices will con- it would ruin tradesmen, ruin -tinue to fall (the effects of par- farmers, rob the mortgager, and ticular reasons aside,) and must finally strip the landlord of his continue to fall, until they reach estate. That prediction I addressthose of the nations around us; ed to Mr. Tierney, and 1 said, I because the paper money must address it to you, that I may have disappear in very great part indeed, a name to call it by, and, if I am it must disappear as common cur-wrong, I desire that it may be rency in May 1823, and only look remembered that I am wrong and at the drain of gold which will by that time have taken place from other countries. That drain will

that you are right. With the like desire I now call upon all here to remember, that, I now say, that,

the present measures being en- Downs, which, in this mild weaforced, the average of good wheat, ther, are mostly beautifully green after May 1823, will not exceed even at this season, with flocks of four shillings a bushel; and that, sheep feeding on them.-Brighton if it do, I will be content to pass itself lies in a valley cut across at for a fool for the remainder of my life. I have now, Gentlemen, to one end by the sea, and its extenexpress the gratification I feel at sion, or Wen, has swelled up the the attentive manner in which you sides of the hills and has run some have been pleased to hear me ; and distance up the valley. The first to add, that, if what I have said, thing you see in approaching shall have the smallest tendency Brighton from Lewes, is a splendid to lessen the magnitude or to horse-barrack on one side of the shorten the duration of the distresses of any one of you, I shall road, and a heap of low, shabby, deem that much more than a com- nasty houses, irregularly built, on pensation for the trouble of coming the other side. This is always the to Lewes, and also for the mo- case where there is a barrack. mentary unpleasant personal circumstances which have taken place in this room.

How soon a Reformed Parlia-ment would make both disappear! Brighton is a very pleasant place. For a wen remarkably so. The BRIGHTON, Thursday, 10 Jan. Kremlin, the very name of which 1822.-Lewes is in a valley of the has so long been a subject of South Downs, this town is at eight laughter all over the country, lies miles distance, to the south south- in the gorge of the valley, and west or thereabouts. There is a amongst the old houses of the great extent of rich meadows above town. The grounds, which canand below Lewes. The town itself is not, I think, exceed a couple or a model of solidity and neatness. three acres, are surrounded by a The buildings all substantial to the wall neither lofty nor good-lookvery out-skirts; the pavements good ing. Above this rise some trees and complete; the shops nice and bad in sorts, stunted in growth, clean; the people well-dressed; and dirty with smoke. As to the and, though last not least, the girls" palace" as the Brighton newsremarkably pretty, as, indeed, papers call it, the apartments apthey are in most parts of Sussex; pear to be all upon the ground floor; round faces, features small, little and, when you see the thing from hands and wrists, plump arms, a distance, you think you see a par and bright eyes. The Sussex men, celofcradle-spits, of various dimentoo, are remarkable for their good sions, sticking up out of the mouths looks. A Mr. BAXTER, a stationer of so many enormous squat decanof Lewes, shewed me a farmer's ters. Take a square box, the sides account book, which is a very of which are three feet and a half, complete thing of the kind. The and the height a foot and a half. Inns are good at Lewes, the people Take a large Norfolk-Turnip, cut civil and not servile, and the off the green of the leaves, leave charges really (considering the the stalks 9 inches long, tie these taxes) far below what one could round with a string three inches reasonably expect. From Lewes from the top, and put the turnip to Brighton the road winds along on the middle of the top of the between the hills of the South box. Then take four turnips, of

half the size, treat them in the tradesmen and mechanics, know, same way, and put them on the I am quite satisfied, more about corners of the box. Then take a the questions that agitate the considerable number of bulbs of country, than any equal number the crown-imperial, the narcissus, of Lords. the hyacinth, the tulip, the crocus, KENSINGTON, Friday, 11 Jaand others; let the leaves of each nuary, 1822.-Came home by the have sprouted to about an inch, way of Cuckfield, Worth, and more or less according to the size Red-Hill, instead of by Uckfield, of the bulb; put all these, pretty Grinstead and Godstone, and got promiscuously but pretty thickly into the same road again at Croyon the top of the box. Then stand don. The roads being nearly off and look at your architecture. parallel lines and at no great There! That's "a Kremlin!" distance from each other, the soil Only you must cut some church- is nearly the same, with the exlooking windows in the sides of the ception of the fine oak country box. As to what you ought to put between Godstone and Grinstead, into the box, that is a subject far which does not go so far westward above my cut.-Brighton is natu- as my homeward bound road, rally a place of resort for expec- where the land, opposite the spot tants, and a shifty ugly-looking just spoken of, becomes more of a swarm is, of course, assembled moor than a clay, and though here. Some of the fellows, who had there are oaks, they are not nearly endeavoured to disturb our har- so fine as those on the other road. mony at the dinner at Lewes, were The tops are flatter; the side parading, amongst this swarm, on shoots are sometimes higher than the cliff. You may always know the middle shoot; a certain proof them by their lank jaws, the stif- that the tap-root has met with feners round their necks, their hid-something that it does not like.— den or no shirts, their stays, their I see (Jan. 15) that Mr. CURTEIS false shoulders, hips and haunches, has thought it necessary to state, their half-whiskers, and by their in the public papers, that he had skins, colour of veal kidney-suet, nothing to do with my being at warmed a little, and then pow-the dinner at Battle! Who the dered with dirty dust.-These Devil thought he had? Why, vermin excepted, the people at Brighton make a very fine figure. The trades-people are very nice in all their concerns. The houses are excellent, built chiefly with a blue or purple brick; and bow-it necessary to apprize him of it windows appear to be the general taste. I can easily believe this to be a very healthy place: the open downs on the one side and the open sea on the other. No inlet, cove, or river; and, of course, no swamps. I have spent this even ing very pleasantly in a company of reformers, who, though plain

was it not an ordinary; and had I not as much right there as he? He has said, too, that he did not know that I was to be at the dinner. How should he? Why was

any more than the porter of the inn? He has said, that he did not hear of any deputation to invite me to the dinner, and, "upon inquiry," cannot find, that there was any. Have I said that there was any invitation at all? There was; but I have not said so. I went to the dinner for my half

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crown like another man, without | too, he would have found to be the knowing, or caring, who would be wise part in the end. Upon lookat it. But, if Mr. CURTEIS thought ing again at the article which it necessary to say so much, he Mr. CURTEIS has published in might have said a little more. the COURIER, I am sorry to perHe might have said, that he twice ceive in it something that is really addressed himself to me in a very not true. He says I was pointed particular manner, and that I out to him as sitting at the head of never addressed myself to him ex- a "SIDE-TABLE." The tables cept in answer; and, if he had were both of the same length; both thought" inquiry necessary standing long-ways of the room; upon this subject also, he might both of the same width; no cross have found, that, though always table, no middle table, and, of the first to speak or hold out the course, no side-table. I sat at the hand to a hard-fisted artizan or head of one table, he at the head labourer, I never did the same to of the other; my right elbow was a man of rank or riches in the not more than seven feet from his whole course of my life. Mr. CUR- left elbow, When he gave the TEIS might have said, too, that, toast" more money and less taxes," unless I had gone to the dinner, he turned himself towards me, the party would, according to ap- and said, "That is a toast, that pearances, have been very select; "I am sure, you approve of, that I found him at the head of one "Mr. Cobbett." To which I of the tables, with less than thirty answered, "It would be made persons in the room; that the "good, Sir, if members of parlianumber swelled up to about one "ment would do their duty." hundred and thirty; that no per-I appeal to all the gentlemen preson was at the other table; that sent for the truth of what I say. I took my seat at it; and that that Perhaps Mr. CURTEIS, in his table became almost immediately heart, did not like to give my crowded from one end to the other. health. If that was the case, he To these Mr. CURTEIS, when his ought to have left the chair, and hand was in, might have added, retired. Straight forward is the that he turned himself in his best course; and, see what diffichair and listened to my speech culties Mr. CURTEIS has involved with the greatest attention; that himself in by not pursuing it! he bade me, by name, good night, I have no doubt that he was agreewhen he retired; that he took not ably surprised when he saw and a man away with him; and that heard me. Why not say, then: the gentleman who was called on "After all that has been said to replace him in the chair (whose" about Cobbett, he is a devilish name I have forgotten) had got" pleasant, frank and clever felfrom his seat during the evening "low, at any rate."-How much to come and shake me by the better this would have been, than to hand. All these things Mr. CUR-act the part that Mr. CURTEIS has TEIS might have said; but the acted. The Editors of the fact is, he has been bullied by the " · Brighton Chronicle and Lewes base newspapers, and he has not Express" have, out of mere mobeen able to muster up courage to desty, I dare say, fallen a little act the manly part, and which, into Mr. CURTEIS's strain. In

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